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doomster · Forum General Joined: 09 Mar 2007 Posts: 1576

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hopemonger · Lieutenant Joined: 15 Sep 2008 Posts: 118 Location: nc

Obama thinks we should teach Kindergarten students to avoid sexual predators (i.e. tell them it's not appropriate for people to touch them certain places.) Oh, he's a bad bad man.

Oh, and more sexual education is not needed? Please.
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doomster · Forum General Joined: 09 Mar 2007 Posts: 1576

Sex education is needed in our young kids..........but not at the age of five. Most parents have enough common sense to explain to their kids what sexual predators are and what they do, anything outside of that is not and should not even be considered. At 5 years old they are finally learning to color and stay in the lines with-out being confused.........what do you think about explaning anything in sex education will do to the mind of a 5 year old child......?????????
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SunAlsoRises · Forum General Joined: 11 Jan 2007 Posts: 1860 Location: NC

doomster · Forum General Joined: 09 Mar 2007 Posts: 1576

doomster · Forum General Joined: 09 Mar 2007 Posts: 1576

Here you go SunAlsoRises, pass thru to about the 2:05 area and watch from there, this is what and how it needs to be handled.

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SunAlsoRises · Forum General Joined: 11 Jan 2007 Posts: 1860 Location: NC

doomster · Forum General Joined: 09 Mar 2007 Posts: 1576

The point is.........things in this matter need to be discussed with parents & kids. I don't think, if I had a 5 year old kid, that I'd want a school teacher discussing anything related to my kids about sex education. If the kid asks, or brings it up, that might be one issue entirely different, and needs to be investigated by law enforcement. It is the PARENTS responsibilty to teach kids what needs to be known, and if the parents don't discuss things of this nature with their kids, then no one can be blamed but the parent. Being you have never been in the position of having a kid in your life, its probably harder for you to understand.........but one day you will see where I am coming from.

Another thing, kids at 5 years old speek real often about what they did at school today or yesterday, and they speak about it openly as well, it might be at church, it might be in a check-out lane att wal-mart, or in a park playing with other kids. Can you see kindergarden school kids running around discussing these issues in public, acting like the puppets used for discussion..........it will be a mess, this much I can promise you. Obama needs addressing on this situation.............just because you like the guy and decided thats your man to vote for does not make all of his actions law, or right either.

Ask the parents on here what they think about sex education for 5 year old kids......see what kinda response you get.
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hopemonger · Lieutenant Joined: 15 Sep 2008 Posts: 118 Location: nc

I am a parent of a six-year-old boy. I do not want him to know things, like you said, it would only confuse him. In today's time, it's hard enough to shelter our children. And I have spoken with him about not letting people touch him.

But you know just because someone is a parent doesn't mean they talk about things. They should, yes. But that's not always the case. And they plop their kids in front of the TV while they watch Sex in the City or whatever and I'm sure there are questions.

And if something happens to one of those kids, I don't think "it's no-one's fault but the parents" is going to help anything.

But Obama voted for this bill BECAUSE of the teaching about sexual predators.

Here is the part of the bill that turned into "Obama wants sex-ed for Kindergarten"

"SB99: Course material and instruction shall discuss and provide
for the development of positive communication skills to maintain healthy relationships and avoid unwanted sexual activity. ... Course material and instruction shall teach pupils ... how to say no to unwanted sexual advances ... and shall include information about verbal, physical, and visual sexual harassment, including without limitation nonconsensual sexual advances, nonconsensual physical sexual contact, and rape by an acquaintance. The course material and instruction shall contain methods of preventing sexual assault by an acquaintance, including exercising good judgment and avoiding behavior that impairs one's judgment."

And here is Obama responding to Alan Keyes question about the very same thing:

Keyes, Oct. 21, 2004: Well, I had noticed that, in your voting, you had voted, at one point, that sex education should begin in kindergarten, and you justified it by saying that it would be "age-appropriate" sex education. [It] made me wonder just exactly what you think is "age-appropriate."

Obama: We have a existing law that mandates sex education in the schools. We want to make sure that it's medically accurate and age-appropriate. Now, I'll give you an example, because I have a six-year-old daughter and a three-year-old daughter, and one of the things my wife and I talked to our daughter about is the possibility of somebody touching them inappropriately, and what that might mean. And that was included specifically in the law, so that kindergarteners are able to exercise some possible protection against abuse, because I have family members as well as friends who suffered abuse at that age. So, that's the kind of stuff that I was talking about in that piece of legislation. Smile

(btw, the age-appropriate came about when talking about AIDS. and I know in elementary school we talked about AIDS and avoiding it and there was no mention of sex, I had not a clue what sex was. that's age-appropriate.)
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SunAlsoRises · Forum General Joined: 11 Jan 2007 Posts: 1860 Location: NC

hopemonger · Lieutenant Joined: 15 Sep 2008 Posts: 118 Location: nc

One step ahead of you. Opt-out was included.

"SB 99: However, no pupil shall be required to take or participate if his parent or guardian submits written objection thereto, and refusal to take or participate in such course or program shall not be reason for suspension or expulsion of such pupil."

Anyhow, the bill stalled and died in the Senate, and no action has been taken on it since 2005.
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