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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 7:04 pm    Post subject: Victory Baptist Reply with quote

Seems to be getting a little political. http://www.vbcrr.org/MoreInfo.html
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh joy. More religiously sanctioned bigotry.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't realize marriage was under attack in North Carolina.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Charter a motor coach for the rally". Let me guess, the Tacklebox express?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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"Charter a motor coach for the rally". Let me guess, the Tacklebox express?


Now now.. Let's try to stay on topic.
That seems a bit petty and mean-spirited since tacklebox isn't even involved in the discussion..
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From what I know about Tacklebox if he's not involved he will be.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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From what I know about Tacklebox if he's not involved he will be.


I know, his views aren't exactly a secret.
To me it just seemed to be an unnecessary potshot. *shrug*
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess it could be construed as such.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pirate wrote:
I guess it could be construed as such.


Not trying to jump on you, I just know him personally, and while I disagree with most of his methods and beliefs, I respect his dedication to his faith(however misguided I may think it is) and think he's an all-around nice guy.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think he's misguided too and the nice guy persona may very well serve to "misguide" someone else. Sun, never worry about whether I perceive that you are "jumping on" me. I have a very thick skin.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NO, in fact it is not the Tacklebox Express, the Minister is getting this bus together, and no it will not be a charter bus, we own three buses that we use to bring kids and adults to church that have no other way. And the kids and adults are of all colors of the rainbow. And yes marriage in North Carolina is under attack. In fact Richard Burr is going to be the Guess speaker at the rally. Tacklebox has nothing to do with getting the trip together. And one other thing I will not have anyone attacking anyone in Open Chapel, this should be the one place you should be able to come and not have to worry about having to be attacked.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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NO, in fact it is not the Tacklebox Express, the Minister is getting this bus together, and no it will not be a charter bus, we own three buses that we use to bring kids and adults to church that have no other way. And the kids and adults are of all colors of the rainbow. And yes marriage in North Carolina is under attack. In fact Richard Burr is going to be the Guess speaker at the rally. Tacklebox has nothing to do with getting the trip together. And one other thing I will not have anyone attacking anyone in Open Chapel, this should be the one place you should be able to come and not have to worry about having to be attacked.


Explain how marriage is under attack in NC, please.

Since you're among the ones who will be demonstrating, I assume you have a firm grasp of the issue at hand.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Marriage amendment legislation has languished in the General Assembly in North Carolina for three years in a row, making North Carolina the only state in the South where legislative efforts to put a marriage amendment on the ballot have consistently failed. Why has it failed because the Demonuts refuse to act on it.

Two bills – H55 and S8 – were introduced in both chambers of the North Carolina General Assembly. Both are constitutional amendments that seek to define marriage as “the union of one man and one woman at one time.” The only difference between the bills is the date in which voters would have approved the constitutional amendment. H55 designates a vote on November 8, 2005, when many voters go to the polls to vote in municipal elections. S8 designates the vote on the day of the primary election in May, 2006.

Neither bill was given so much as a committee hearing, even though this important legislation defends North Carolina’s traditional values and has broad-based support. Similar amendments were introduced during the last legislative session in 2003, but the Democrat leadership also prevented those bills from receiving a hearing in committee.

No need to ask me to go further on this issue because Open Chapel is not the place to debate Politics.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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No need to ask me to go further on this issue because Open Chapel is not the place to debate Politics.



And I will go so far as to say neither is Victory Baptist Church the place to debate politics either. Church's that involve themselves in the political process should loose their tax exempt status.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

msnightowl wrote:
No need to ask me to go further on this issue because Open Chapel is not the place to debate Politics.


I think you lost the right to call it a "political matter" the moment you got your church involved.

msnightowl wrote:

The Marriage amendment legislation has languished in the General Assembly in North Carolina for three years in a row, making North Carolina the only state in the South where legislative efforts to put a marriage amendment on the ballot have consistently failed. Why has it failed because the Demonuts refuse to act on it.


Or perhaps, there is some sanity left in the world.

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Two bills – H55 and S8 – were introduced in both chambers of the North Carolina General Assembly. Both are constitutional amendments that seek to define marriage as “the union of one man and one woman at one time.”


What gives you the right to impose your own religious beliefs on the millions of people who don't share them? The religious right used the Bible to back up bans on interracial marriage and segregation as well. I see no difference.
Marriage is about two people in love making a pact with each other.

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Neither bill was given so much as a committee hearing, even though this important legislation defends North Carolina’s traditional values and has broad-based support.


There you go again with "traditional values."
Traditional values really aren't all they're cracked up to be.
Some are common sense, of course, such as not cheating on your husband/wife, not lying, having character..etc
Since when did dictating someone else's love life become a traditional value? Follow your own values, don't marry someone of the same-sex, thats YOUR choice. But you have no right to take that choice away from everyone else.

So yes, marriage IS under attack in NC.
By you, and anyone else attempting to proliferate this ethnocentric belief.



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